If cast soft enough they can also slug up to create a gas seal, which helps reduce fusion and barrel leading. My powders of choice are Clays, HP-38, HS-6, Universal, Trail Boss, H110, IMR 4227, W296, and W231. This brings us to powders, and I use a lot of Hodgdon powders. We were soon shooting 300-grain bullets at 1,200 fps from a 7.5-inch-barreled Ruger revolver. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. It served me well while riding the ranch on horseback, running a trap-line, hunting big game, varmints and pests, etc., and it even saved my skin a time or two. We were soon shooting 300-grain bullets at 1,200 fps from a 7.5-inch-barreled Ruger revolver. I found the following heavyweight bullets all would work through both the Winchester and Marlin actions: NEI 310 Keith, NEI 325 Keith, Lyman #454629GC 300-grain FN, RCBS #45-270 SAA weighing around 284 grains with my alloy, and I also checked the #454490GC design by Ray Thompson, which is a 255-grain Keith-style gas-checked bullet. Universal is an excellent powder for the 45 Colt with 8.0 grains under a 250-grain bullet duplicating the old black powder load. Michigan Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: Generally, when revolvers with such grossly oversized throats are fired with modern cast and jacketed bullets accuracy is poor.
Rifle Data - Speer The weight would more properly be closer to 32 grains. Cast bullets can be sized to .455 inch (assuming the mould casts bullets large enough), which again helps to reduce bullet tilting in the throat. Note: Powder Mfgs. It has never failed me. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. After that date bore diameters were reduced to .451-.452 inch, the same as the .45 Auto. I can only assume the above statement of bore diameter was intended to indicate groove, diameter. www.hodgdonreloading.com Broc NES Member Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2010 To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Mississippi Deptartment of Wildlife, Fisheries & Parks, State Agency: Massachusetts Division of Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: Copyright. The other problem, that of cylinder throat diameters, centers around the fact that they vary considerably. The new RIA 5.0 Sporting Pistol from Rock Island Armory features a patented RVS Recoil system that maximizes barrel mass and linear movement to give shooters super soft recoil. Elmer Keith was way ahead of his time in developing everyday working and hunting loads. Even with their short barrels, they still carry nine rounds in the tubular magazine. Texas Parks & Wildlife Department, State Agency:
Alliant Powder - Reloader's Guide Taurus Marketing Manager Caleb Giddings highlights the features of the new Taurus Raging Hunter 460 Magnum, a purpose-built revolver with a 10.5-inch barrel and an effective recoil-taming brake, with Guns & Ammo Executive Editor Joe Kurtenbach. I shoot the .44 and .45 in rifles and pistolas, but I have only a rifle in .38-40. Using a 250-grain cast bullet, 37.5 grains by volume of Pyrodex P results in a very potent 987 fps and a five-shot, 50-foot group of 0.88 inch in my revolver. Deployed military should use stateside address. No purchase necessary. (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.)
45 long colt favorite load data - Gunloads.com For example, Lyman mould No. - 9.4 grains Unique Lyman 452460 , 200 gr. Low Recoil Loads | Hodgdon Reloading Handloading allows the flexibility to adjust load ballistics for a particular purpose. Members 4.5k Gender:Male Location:Dolores, Colorado Interests:All types of shooting, hunting, fishing, camping. With Accurates 5744 the speeds with 17.0 were 853 fps UP and 802 DOWN, but spreads were much better at 45 fps and 16.6 fps respectively. Elmer Keith was way ahead of his time in developing everyday working and hunting loads. I use my Winchester and Marlin Trappers for relatively close-range shooting. For little more power I move up to the above-mentioned #454490 GC with 10.0 grains of Unique for just over 1,235 fps and groups of less than 1". Minnesota Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency:
After all the work and expense, it turned out to be a somewhat mediocre performer. For example with the 4-5/8" Ruger Blackhawk, I use the NEI 310-grain Keith bullet over 21.0 grains of WW296 or H110 for 1,125 fps in the sixgun and 1,445 fps from the Trapper Barrel. Deployed military should use stateside address. This same bullet can be loaded to much higher velocity in Rugers large-frame single- and double-action sixguns. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. That brings us to the next level, which includes 45 Colt revolvers built on the Ruger Super Blackhawk frame and the Ruger Old Model Blackhawk, the arrival of which led to two separate load sections showing up in loading manuals. The new big bore pistols feature industry-first capacity, with a standard 15-round capacity and 22+1 rounds of 10mm or 18+1 rounds of .45 ACP from the extended magazines. within an inch or 2 of each other at 50 yards. USE THIS DATA WITH ALLIANT BRAND POWDERS ONLY. I soon added single-cavity molds for the .45 Colt and .38 Special. Before I discuss handloads for the 45 Colt, we have to acknowledge there exists such a wide range of revolvers accepting the 45 Colt that great care must be used in assembling loads and choosing which guns will safely accept them. However, when using versions that weigh 250 grains, it is sometimes difficult to reach high enough velocities to achieve reliable expansion while staying within industry pressure guidelines. For the 45 Colt, I especially prefer the 250-grain RNFP and the 255-grain SWC. Again, a groove diameter of .451 to .452 inch remains standard by all manufacturers. In addition to outstanding terminal performance and accuracy in guns with correct internal dimensions, it offers low pressures, mild muzzle report and controllable recoil, all of which make it especially practical for an outdoorsman who uses a sixgun daily. ew eginnings - Mark 7 is now part of the Lyman family! On paper, the 357 Magnum was the first cartridge to exceed the 45 Colts muzzle energy, but many knowledgeable sixgunners, Elmer Keith included, believed the 45 Colt actually offered more practical power than the First Magnum. Today, it remains one of our most popular sixgun cartridges.
These will still work in the vast majority of sixguns with the exception of the old short cylinder Smith & Wesson N-frames produced prior to 1978 and a couple of others not commonly encountered. North Dakota Game & Fish Department, State Agency: My maine load is the Lyman 454190 cast of ww + 2% tin. For example, No. It's like shooting a .38 special in a gun chambered for .357 magnum. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I didnt realize how many different powders from Hodgdon I use in loading the 45 Colt until I began putting this article together. The 45 Colt brass could handle the pressures, but standard sixguns could not. In slugging the barrels of later pre-World War II guns with wider flat lands, serial numbers 347xxx (1924) and 355xxx (1936), along with two factory. H110 works well for heavy bullet loads in the .45 Colt levergun. Powders include It's always had a great reputation as a man stopper. I have been pleasantly surprised by the Marlin Trapper. The (top) Model 25-5 has .458-inch throats while the (bottom) Model 25-5 has .451-inch throats and is far more accurate.
Load Data - Castpics The Smith & Wesson Model 29 is the sixgun by which all other .44 Magnums are judged.
Reloader 7 for 45-70? | Glock Talk Joe Kurtenbach, Executive Editor of Gun & Ammo, and John Myles from Smith & Wesson discuss features of the Equalizer 9mm micro-compact pistol and new-for-2023 M&P 5.7. Checked and verified, page 285, 4th Ed.Lyman cast bullet handbook. Nonetheless, the 30-grain charge with a 250-grain bullet reached around 850 fps from a 7.5-inch barrel. bullet type,style,powder ,amount,col.,primeres,and if possable fps. The revolver and ammunition were officially adopted for service in 1873. Note that the "Ruger New Vaquero" uses a smaller frame and cylinder like original Colts.
Lyman Reloading Handbook 49th edition. - Free Online Library I have found 5.0 grains of Clays under a 250-grain bullet delivers a very pleasant-shooting load at 725 fps and will group all its shots in 0.63 inch at 20 yards.
45 Colt Load Data - HunterHub (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. My brass of choice is Starlines excellent 45 Colt brass with CCI 300 Large Pistol primers for all powders, except I switch to CCI 350 Magnum Pistol primers with IMR 4227, H110, W296, and all black powder and black powder substitutes. Federal Ammunition History: 14 Things You Didn't Know, SIG Sauer Custom Works P320 Spectre Comp Pistol: First Look, .224 Valkyrie Small Precision Rifle Cartridge: Everything You Need to Know, How to Choose the Best Scope Reticle for Your Application, SIG Sauer Announces New P320-XTEN 10mm Pistol, SIG Sauer P322 .22 Rimfire Pistol: Full Review, Non-Lethal Personal & Home Defense with Byrna, Range Tested: EAA Girsan Pistols & Shotguns, New for 2023: Christensen Arms Modern Hunting Rifle (MHR), New for 2023: All-American RIA 5.0 Sporting Pistol, New for 2023: FN Rush 9Ti Pistol Suppressor, New Big Bore Pistols for 2023: FN 510 Tactical and FN 545 Tactical, New for 2023: FN SCAR 15P Rifle Caliber Pistol, First Look: Taurus Raging Hunter 460 Magnum Revolver With 10.5-Inch Barrel, New-for-2023 Taurus Judge Executive Grade 410/.45 Colt Revolver, Smith & Wesson Equalizer and the Brand New M&P 5.7 Pistol. All entries must be received by giveaway end date.
It didnt take long for manufacturers to offer heavier bullets, and two of the best came from NEI. Quality 300-grain jacketed bullets are also offered by all three of these manufacturers. Mike, who used to live in Newport News, but now resides in Poquoson VA. I have dozens of references from credible sources that state pre-World War II Colt revolvers feature a barrel groove diameter of .454 inch while postwar guns measure .451 to .452 inch. Stay tuned. Two other powders for standard loads include W231 and HP-38. Nitro 100, No.2, No. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. There simply is not much that cannot be accomplished with the 45 Colt. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Keiths #454424 was an excellent bullet, but it has been improved by Dave Scovill and is offered by RCBS as #45-270SAA. I have yet to find any levergun or sixgun that does not shoot this Dick Casull-designed bullet exceptionally well. In 1898, Colt made the necessary changes to permit its guns to be used with smokeless powders; however, it wasnt until 1900 (revolvers with serial number 192,000 or higher) that Colt began to officially warrant its guns for such. For example, the most recent Speer Reloading Manual Number 15 states, Prior to 1945, most .45 Colt revolvers had a bore diameter of .454 inch.
Reloading The .45 Schofield Pistol - Reload Ammo The proud tradition and history of Lyman Products began simply in the late 1800?s when William Lyman, an avid outdoorsman and inventor, created a product that resolved problems with gun sights of his day. The .45 Colt was developed in 1872 and first chambered for the Colt Single Action Army revolver in 1873. Balloonhead cases were discontinued around World War II but still show up regularly on handloaders benches. take the .45 Colt as my game and defense cartridge. It is noteworthy that this statement was made 20 years after the development of the .357 Magnum, a cartridge Keith also tested and used in the field.
.45 LC loads for rifles | Ruger Forum They are my choice for everyday use and also for hunting larger, tougher game. Most of these are custom, tuned and have accounted for several head of big game. and how they grouped at ther yrds. Camp Guns: Sometimes Perfect, Other Times Not But Often Essential! Everyone who has a Ruger Blackhawk or Freedom Arms single-action revolver realizes the roots of these modern guns go back to the Colt Single Action Army. Reddings excellent Dual Ring Carbide sizing die was used to prep cases as it works the case less, results in longer case life, seems to improve accuracy and eliminates the Coke bottle shape forward of the head. In fact, an axiom with me is, When all else fails, try IMR 4227 before giving up. Years ago, after tiring of oversized 45 Colt chambers in Colt Single Action Army revolvers and New Frontiers, I started with a 357 Magnum New Frontier, had the cylinder rechambered properly and tightly to 45 Colt, and then had a new 4.75-inch Colt New Frontier barrel fitted. Others are the New Model Blackhawks, the Bisley Model, the Redhawk, and the Super Redhawk. When using a revolver with large throats, there are solutions to improve accuracy. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033.
Blue dot and 45 colt | Graybeard Outdoors (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. .45 Colt Keith bullets: Lyman #454424 (264 gr. We are blessed to have many excellent cartridges and sixguns available to us, but it would be hard to find any cartridge that is as versatile as the old 45 Colt. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. When Ray Thompson was designing his line of bullets, he did not neglect the 45. In the large .45 case, a large difference has been noted in speeds. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. During my early teenage years I acquired a beautiful pre-World War II Colt SAA .45 that was customized by one of the masters during the 1920s. I would conclude this powder is much more consistent in speeds than others that I have tried in the .45 Colt. In ranking the various 45 Colt sixguns now in production from the least strongest to that capable of a handling the heaviest loads, I would set the following order. For the 45 Colt, I especially prefer the 250-grain RNFP and the 255-grain SWC.
.45 Colt Rifle Data (Lyman Reloading Handbook 49th Edition) Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. It takes at least two rounds to be able to see if the rounds are too long to accomplish both operations. Survival, Banned, Training, Load, reloading, powder Collection folkscanomy_defense; folkscanomy; additional_collections Language English. These two bullets in a custom five-shot Blackhawk or Freedom Arms Model 83 five-shooter can be driven to 1,450 fps with W296 or H110. The .45 Colt is rapidly approaching 150 years in existence, and it remains one of our finest, most useful, versatile and handloaded sixgun cartridges. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. I have been surprised by the fact the Marlin feeds Keith-style bullets perfectly. Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: This same bullet can be loaded to much higher velocity in Rugers large-frame single- and double-action sixguns. There are some excellent jacketed bullets available for use in the 45 Colt, including the Sierra 240-grain JHP,Hornady250-grain XTP-JHP, and the Speer 260-grain JHP, all of which I prefer for deer-sized game. The final level includes custom five-shot Rugers and the Freedom Arms Model 83. Then comes the Freedom Arms Model 97, the original Ruger Vaquero, Ruger Blackhawk, Ruger Redhawk, and the Ruger Super Redhawk.
45 Colt: Shooting and Reloading - Ultimate Reloader Everyone who has a Ruger Blackhawk or Freedom Arms single-action revolver realizes the roots of these modern guns go back to the Colt Single Action Army. Beginning in the early 1980s both Winchester and Marlin began offering .45 Colt leverguns. Soon after smokeless powder came into use, throats were increased to .4555 inch (according to Colt specifications), which worked fine with .456-inch lead hollowbase bullets contained in Remington and Winchester ammunition. .449 inch to .460 inch, and Smith & Wessons from .451 to .458 inch. I use the same industry measurement as the .45 ACP .470 inch. LYMAN Reloading Products A trusted Brand since the 1800?s. There are some excellent jacketed bullets available for use in the 45 Colt, including the Sierra 240-grain JHP, Hornady 250-grain XTP-JHP, and the Speer 260-grain JHP, all of which I prefer for deer-sized game. Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism, State Agency: ), RCBS #450255KT (258 gr. Guns with larger throats will usually produce improved accuracy when loaded with bullets that measure .454 to .456 inch. Elmer Keith was way ahead of his time in developing everyday working and hunting loads. i even just recieved an awsome holster rig new,lined,scroll work, you name it , looks fantastic quality for only 40.00,,,got hooked up with this awsome lady on ebay,whos selling them for a friend who makes them. Many early black-powder-era Colt revolvers (1873-1898) feature .449- to .452-inch throats that corresponded reasonably with .450- to .452-inch barrel groove diameters. West Virginia Division of Natural Resources, State Agency: of blackpowder, the .44-40 . These can be safely driven to 1,200 fps in the Ruger Blackhawk. 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The Freedom Arms Model 97 also is in this group. for Ruger Blackhawk and T/C, levels in the 20,000 to 25,000 range are Starting load is 12.4 grains and top load is 15.4 grains of Blue Dot. Contrary to what has been traditionally published, records indicate that early loads from Frankford Arsenal contained a copper case loaded with a 250-grain, roundnose flatpoint lead bullet pushed with 30 grains of black powder, with additional charge weights soon added. Contest void where prohibited by law. When the Marlin and Winchester Trappers first arrived in the early '80s, the #1 45 Colt bullet was still Elmer Keith's #454424 weighing about 260 grains from my alloy. Ben Voss FN Product Manager talks about the new FN SCAR 15P ultra-compact rifle-caliber pistol at SHOT Show 2023. The 45 Colt brass was up to the task. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM Old West 2023, PO Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. The 1894 Winchester Trappers have a long, strong action and even though the chambers are somewhat over-size, they will handle any load you can normally load in a .45 Colt case for use in sixguns with six-shot cylinders. So both the up and down positions were closer in speeds and the spreads were noticeably closer. Again using 255-grain factory loads at 860 fps, the .45 Colt reaches a factor of 14.09, while select standard-pressure handloads containing 280-grain bullets pushed to 950 fps factor at 17.17. Bad Idea! Bob Meinert, FN Marketing Director, introduces FN's first commercial pistol suppressor, the FN Rush 9Ti. Handgun Data. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. For the 45 Colt this is the Single Action Army revolver. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Elmer Keiths custom Colt single action was used to develop his heavy 44 Special loads in the late 1920s, and for a long time the 45 Colt cartridge was accused of being weak. This prevents bullets from being sized down when seated into an overly tight case. There were no 45 Colt heavyweight bullets available at the time, so we sized down 300-grain 45-70 bullets in several stages, going from around 0.460 inch to 0.452 inch. In contrast, Ruger only revolver data uses slower powders like IMR 4227, Win 296 and 2400, and 250 gr velocities in the 1350-1450 fps range. About the same time the Winchester Trappers arrived, Marlin had a very limited run of 500 each of .44 Magnum and .45 Colt Trappers. All Guns and Ammo subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. This significantly improved its accuracy when compared to the original cylinder with its typical oversized throats, and resulted in increased velocity. Addeddate 2019-02-27 13:08:05 Identifier LymanReloadingHandbook48thEdition2002Ocr_201902 Identifier-ark ark:/13960/t9093sd5t Ocr ABBYY FineReader 11.0 (Extended OCR) SAAMI pressures for STANDARD .45 Colt is 14,000 PSI MAXIMUM, but Jacketed bullets are also more difficult to push down the bore and therefore produce less velocity than a cast bullet of equal weight. This is a plain base bullet and I found out very quickly it was not very accurate in either rifle. This is a plain base bullet and I found out very quickly it was not very accurate in either rifle. from virtually all manufacturers including Colt, Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Great Western, USFA and Uberti. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. They do provide identical results of muzzle velocities and pressures using the same charge weights, and I use them interchangeably. When the new 454 Magnum revolvers (as they were first called) arrived, however, the brass was lengthened so it could not be used in standard 45 Colt sixguns. Western Powders (Accurate and Ramshot) are about the only ones publishing higher pressure 45 Colt cast bullet data. Actually, we can divide 45 Colt sixguns into several reloading levels, and I have moderated these somewhat over the past several years, with the first two levels being very close together. The accompanying data was developed using Starline cases that are strong, offer long life and are available factory direct. 53 pg. Load data for caliber ".45 Colt". The other problem, that of cylinder throat diameters, centers around the fact that they vary considerably. Maine Department of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife, State Agency: I have been pleasantly surprised by the Marlin Trapper. I shot all kinds of bullets and powders from my 45 colt from 200gr to 350 gr trying to find something that was better than the other. Their max load is 6.2 grains for an approx 881 feet per second and a pressure of 13K cup.
Lyman Reloading Products | Titan Reloading Equipment When tactical lights first came out, we all thought the 50 lumens they offered was astounding and could never get better. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. However, I crimp the #45-270 over the front band to ensure trouble-free feeding. They do provide identical results of muzzle velocities and pressures using the same charge weights, and I use them interchangeably. El Hombre Sin Nombre Members 6.3k Gender:Male Location:Oakland, CA SASS# 101096 Richmond Roughriders, Coyote Valley Cowboys, Faultine Shootist Society,Two Rivers Posse, River City Regulators Posted February 18, 2017 And about 1450+fps out of the 20" 454 Puma Levergun. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. By the standards of the day when it arrived in 1873, and even to this day, the 45 Colt was and is a powerful cartridge. One problem inherent with the original #454424 was the fact that when sized to 0.451 to 0.452 inch, the crimping groove almost disappears. Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, State Agency: 9 with 15 gr. This brings us to powders, and I use a lot of Hodgdon powders. I was fortunate to find one of each. Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources, State Agency: In his classic 1955 book Sixguns by Keith, Elmer Keith stated, As one grows older and his hair starts to turn grey, his respect for this grand old load increases. When he died in 1862, the company was dedicated to producing the same percussion revolvers. The 45 Colt also predates the 38 Special, the 44 Special, and the 45 ACP, and not only is it more than 80 years older than the 44 Magnum, but it also has more case capacity and in the proper sixguns can outrank the 44 Magnum. Due to their reduced velocity combined with greater resistance in the bore, I dont recommend loads that produce less than 750 fps because there is a significant chance of sticking a bullet in the bore. Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, State Agency: The Colt factory has told me these large throats are intended to keep chamber pressures low, which is nonsense. Below you'll find some basic data for each cartridge to help get you started. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. The 9.2 got the best SD and EP, if that means much to you. There are many good jacketed bullets for the .45 Colt. Contest void where prohibited by law. The availability of all of these bullets is dependent on how much time I have to cast my own. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. A quote from Lyman Reloading Handbook, 49th Edition states, The grooves of pre-World War II revolvers normally measure .454 in diameter. Before I discuss handloads for the 45 Colt, we have to acknowledge there exists such a wide range of revolvers accepting the 45 Colt that great care must be used in assembling loads and choosing which guns will safely accept them. Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism, Massachusetts Division of Fisheries & Wildlife, Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, West Virginia Division of Natural Resources, Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, South Carolina Department of Natural Resources, Rhode Island Department of Fish & Wildlife, North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission, New York Department of Environmental Conservation, Mississippi Deptartment of Wildlife, Fisheries & Parks, Minnesota Deptartment of Natural Resources, Michigan Deptartment of Natural Resources, Maine Department of Inland Fisheries & Wildlife, Louisiana Department of Wildlife & Fisheries, Kentucky Department of Fish & Wildlife Resources, Hawaii Department of Land & Natural Resources, Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, Alabama Department of Conservation & Natural Resources. SWC - 9.0 grains Unique Lyman # 452664 , 250 gr. Space constraints keep me from looking at all of these powders in depth, but I can cover a few. Nevada Department of Wildlife, State Agency: Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. Cartridge Type: Pistol/Revolver. Load up some Low Recoil handloads. The vast majority of my 45 Colt handloads over the last 60 years, however, has been put together with cast bullets.